flagtown25

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:17:43 PM
Ok
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 1:10:17 PM
For a WEEK? How about just comparing a MONTH? Comparing just a week is not enough time!
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36_ACRES_4_SALE

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Appleton
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Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:21:31 AM
ok
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:54:36 PM
It would seem that the unreasonable opposition to new pipelines to carry oil and gas has resulted in increased tanker car traffic on the nations reailroads. Just exactly which method of oil, natural gas and refined product tranportation is best?
My vote goes to pipelines as being both physically and environmentally safest.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 10:41:44 PM
Thanks for posting Burnt Orange!
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teenitup

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 12:57:25 PM
Definitely not the safest mode of oil transport.
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wild3bill

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 10:09:42 AM
Drought has lowered many rivers and cut barge traffic. Some may have to carry smaller load to avoid running a ground if allowed to ride th river at all!
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qwerty17

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 7:36:49 AM
gives a jump to rail which lost a lot of coal transport.
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SUNOIL

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 7:01:55 AM
OK
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heydano67

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California
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 12:14:14 AM
Take advantage of the infrastructure
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CdnLynx

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:47:06 PM
Pipelines are more efficient then trains; for the short term they will be good; pipeline will be better for the long term!
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farn1958

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:21:25 PM
ok.
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:17:45 PM
Warren Buffett loves this.
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letterchunker

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:10:26 PM
Way to get around Obama
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:05:43 PM
Gee, @HYEgasCA, tell us what you REALLY think.
So, what's your beef with Warren Buffet? The fact that he actually wants the President to raise his taxes?
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:04:13 PM
economies of scale.
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yakstar

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:04:10 PM
wow!
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 11:02:22 PM
@tidalwave3, do we have the numbers on who spills more oil, pipelines or trains?
Pipelines take forever to shut down if there's a rupture. At least with a train, you're limited to the oil in the tanker cars if there's an accident.
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Marson

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Scranton
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:59:27 PM
The railroads are getting the oil out, but pipelines would be much more efficient and cheaper.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:59:19 PM
Pipelines might be more efficient, @mstearno, but they spill a lot more oil than a train if there's an accident.
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Jeeputtputt

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:58:37 PM
This will cost us (tax-payers) more with each mishap/accident...
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:57:47 PM
The railroads can produce more jobs than the pipeline ever could. Run more tanker cars pulled by more locomotives.
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wilbur_gas

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:55:25 PM
What product is being transported? Grease, Gas, or crude?
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:52:23 PM
Warren is very happy.
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TXRanger09

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:47:02 PM
Go BNSF! Maybe thats why BNI stock is trading @ its 52 week high. $100.23 per share - 52 week low was $50 ish. Ya think hauling oil pays better than coal? Duh.
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Lizzylou

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:39:09 PM
Sounds good!
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CCLighthouse

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:38:49 PM
Yeah! Good idea DEG.
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RomneySucks

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:33:17 PM
Ya think?
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ggordo

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:31:52 PM
good
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:30:37 PM
Build refineries in the Dakotas or in Montana.
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CarefreeVT

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Burlington
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:27:24 PM
Petroleum or corn to be processed into ethanol?
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:26:16 PM
Good for the railroads. UP stock has more than doubled. I hope that CSX and NS will get some of the action.
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:25:36 PM
pipeline is more efficient
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:24:33 PM
The supply has to get to where it is needed somehow.
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ExplorerWA

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Washington
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:23:37 PM
Keep that oil moving.
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tidalwave3

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:21:39 PM
Romney will approve XL Pipeline and slow this down :) An environmental disaster on rail coming :(
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TFowler513

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:20:16 PM
We can only hope that it drops the price at the pump!!!
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RomneySucks

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:17:27 PM
Romney will open the floodgates to Mexican trucks and drivers.
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:16:46 PM
Pipelines would be better.
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BoerneWatch

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:14:44 PM
This won't last forever.
If there is a lot of volume, pipelines will be built and the rail will price itself out of a job.
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:13:05 PM
good deal
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scrounger

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:12:18 PM
Just wait.........eventually there will be a derailment of multiple tank cars and then what?
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:08:07 PM
I would guess they can move it by rail cheaper than by truck. If they can keep up with demand by adding cars then maybe the pipeline is a mute point.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:03:58 PM
Clermont rails are far, far safer than a pipeline....although not as efficient. The spill news from pipelines lately has been once a week, if you count all of the small as well as the large ones.
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serrog

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Nova Scotia
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:03:56 PM
Temporary likely as the Greens will mess it up
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souly

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:03:54 PM
thanks for the post
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Lukus

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Halifax
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:02:21 PM
OK
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Dragnet

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 10:01:04 PM
Possible but won't lower prices at the pump.
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skyking19

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 9:55:03 PM
Makes sense and the capacity is available to handle it.
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mil2008

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 9:53:21 PM
good
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