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NY records show history of oil, gas well problems

trib.com (AP) -- State regulators claim a strong record of oil and gas drilling oversight, but their own reports reveal thousands of unplugged abandoned wells and other industrial problems that could pose a threat to groundwater, wetlands, air quality and public safety.

Annual reports and incident reports prepared by Department of Environmental Conservation staff run counter to the agency’s long-stated assertion that the types of problems reported in other states have been prevented in New York by strong regulations.

The review comes as New York officials prepare to issue a decision on whether to allow hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, a lucrative method of extracting natural gas that has raised environmental concerns.

“Division of Mineral Resources annual reports over two decades show that the D

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Submitted Oct 01, 2012 By: teafortwo

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:00:42 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Thanks for posting T42.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,202,855 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:52:35 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Another good one Teafortwo..... Follow-up on the unplugged and abandoned wells is extremely expensive; each must be inspected individually. If NY is smart they will require the Oil/Gas industry to put aside a percentage of their profits so the State can afford the plugging and inspections!
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,238 Points:1,823,110 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:27:44 PM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse so why have the sate not follow up
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,805 Points:639,350 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 3:54:23 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Too many rules & regulations.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,986 Points:595,785 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 12:25:13 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,743 Points:588,820 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 8:49:40 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse These corporations must be regulated.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,953 Points:2,114,690 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 7:51:24 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse No surprise...
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,936 Points:2,342,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 3:55:35 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse NY records show history of oil, gas well problems and what else will show up later that they do not know about now? Protect the groundwater, wetlands, air quality and public safety from unplugged abandoned wells, industrial activity and fracking. Encourage the public to report possible problems and have the state inspectors investigate legitimate claims. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
dongo50 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:14,678 Points:2,378,095 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 12:39:12 AM Ignore dongo50 Report Abuse SSDD
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,202,855 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:42:58 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse I10Express...I wouldn't be bragging about the Texas Railroad Commissions actions in the Oil patch. Texas is owned by Big Oil.
teenitup Champion Author Houston Posts:1,613 Points:247,010 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:14:46 PM Ignore teenitup Report Abuse And to think, no fracking was involved!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,529,650 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:13:06 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Fracking is the wrong method and a destructive method of extracting oil and gas from the earth. When are people going to open their eyes to reality.
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,932 Points:2,075,235 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:04:45 PM Ignore Marson Report Abuse You have to obey the rules.
dlemma Champion Author Wyoming Posts:4,091 Points:1,552,095 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:02:46 PM Ignore dlemma Report Abuse Two decades is way to long.
SandeeC Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,983 Points:459,505 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:00:46 PM Ignore SandeeC Report Abuse I'm not surprised - heard such stories before. Seen sites where massive pollution and/or contamination problems have just been "buried" - literally. Now, years later major bucks have to be paid for clean-up. And for everyone that has "surfaced", how many more sites out there are slowly leaking toxins into waterways, etc.????
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,007 Points:1,484,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:59:42 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Got to do it right, or pay fines
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melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:54:09 PM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse Another one of the many and gigantic costs of deregulation. I think Ronald Reagan just wanted to loosen the reins a little - not throw them away. Reagan loosened. George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George Bush threw them away. It was nuts. Remember that banking melt down we are still paying for? The banking regulators still had plenty of regulations to enforce, but since we cut their strength, they decided not to enforce anything. Once the crooks figured this out, the meltdown was inevitable. How did the crooks figure it out? Well one crook, he was high up in Arkansas government, he bullied the regulators there to look the wrong way and got away with ROBBERY!!! Then it got leaked to the press when he ran for president, letting the crooks know. So it wasn't deregulation. It wasn't a lack of manpower. It was a complete lack of ethics by people who refused to do their jobs.
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,837 Points:1,180,220 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:50:28 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse And somewhere there's a law that says you can't plant flowers on Sunday and that law will get enforced.
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,079 Points:847,350 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:48:23 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse Typical of any place, any time. There is no regulation except for Joe Average. He gets regulated to debt.
FFootdoc12 All-Star Author Illinois Posts:849 Points:306,775 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:45:24 PM Ignore FFootdoc12 Report Abuse who cares about regulation and safety when there's soo much money to be made
jalan25 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:2,325 Points:567,920 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:40:24 PM Ignore jalan25 Report Abuse As is typical, the regulations are there if only someone would enforce
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,610 Points:3,492,755 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:40:04 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse I am sure that the records are incomplete.
bojiway1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,034 Points:476,010 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:36:17 PM Ignore bojiway1 Report Abuse Let's see the facts,
splitrman Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,310 Points:313,840 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:35:03 PM Ignore splitrman Report Abuse What do you expect when there is a shortage of trained inspectors in an industry committed to getting as much profit with the least amount of cost.
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,260 Points:2,264,665 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:34:20 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse this should cause concern to people. The oversight needs to improve on closed wells
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danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,337 Points:1,537,705 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:28:08 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Of course they do.
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,212 Points:815,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:24:58 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse you can regulate the hell out of anything but if no one can police and enforce it ....then its just a piece of paper!
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bigdipperMS Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,502 Points:534,725 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:21:19 PM Ignore bigdipperMS Report Abuse It will be good for New York and good for America. Why do you think Middle East Countries are spending money to defeat fracking? The proposed regulations will get many of the improper abandoned well properly plugged and produce an energy source for America or one more step to energy independence. [Edited by: bigdipperMS at 10/1/2012 10:23:53 PM EST]
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Mr_Bill_W All-Star Author Virginia Posts:566 Points:356,010 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:14:13 PM Ignore Mr_Bill_W Report Abuse The depth and breath of incompetence exercised in regulatory oversight of industry and the mitigation of environmental impact is astounding. When in retrospect we look at the impact of our collective stupidity in relying on local, state and federal agencies to protect us from industry and ourselves I have to wonder how the postmortem of civilization and the environment will read?
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ericbcire Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,510 Points:1,264,685 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:11:17 PM Ignore ericbcire Report Abuse More hype and distractions from the real issues.
heysailor Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:9,572 Points:2,330,720 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:09:27 PM Ignore heysailor Report Abuse Lots of downside to fracking but the corporate-owned media rarely report it.
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:8,195 Points:1,570,385 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:08:39 PM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse AND YET THEY KEEP DOING IT.
vjs3 Champion Author Denver Posts:2,526 Points:646,990 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:08:21 PM Ignore vjs3 Report Abuse No surprise, but wish it wasn't so...
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