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FBI2991 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,572 Points:414,055 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:21:10 AM Ignore FBI2991 Report Abuse The lawyers are staged to make bundles of cash off the Toyota problems.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:18,294 Points:1,366,160 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:20:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse it’s an elusive computer bug, - gotta’ find it and kill it, fast! But, fix that computer bug one moment and the next moment it’s back. Using wireless, electronic computer modules is not like the good physical connection made with a cable or other solid linkage. A cable is NOT affected by a bump in the road!
MVP1 Sophomore Author New York Posts:238 Points:674,835 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:19:27 AM Ignore MVP1 Report Abuse Toyota's denial of software problems sounds like the denials I've heard from every IT department and software vendor I've ever worked with in the past 35 years... there is likely some contingency that was not accounted for in the code.
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,741 Points:848,800 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:19:17 AM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse This could be a "balloon boy" hoax.
RetiredVP Veteran Author New Hampshire Posts:377 Points:164,390 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:18:35 AM Ignore RetiredVP Report Abuse They never teach any kind of emergency procedures in drivers ed today. When I was taking divers ed as a youngster, we learn how to handle exactly this situation.
RocketmanC99 Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,263 Points:440,930 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:16:04 AM Ignore RocketmanC99 Report Abuse But there IS an explanation. CA can't afford their liberalistic society, so they want Toyota to pay for some of it!
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,818 Points:604,880 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:13:39 AM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse There have been previous instances when the driver, whether a young driver or an older senior citizen, is initially distracted or becomes confused and is frantically pressing on the accelerator when they think they are hitting the brake (and so drive through the garage wall).
mooneyman Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:1,876 Points:379,075 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:13:13 AM Ignore mooneyman Report Abuse Obama owns Chevy and Chrysler. Toyota is number one. No one wants an obama mobile. So let's sick the government on Toyota, knock them down with BS problems get stupid people in a freny and maybe he might sell a couple of Aveos and Malibus. This guy and his Chicago thugs are the criminals.
civicdutie Champion Author Rochester Posts:2,672 Points:540,465 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:12:17 AM Ignore civicdutie Report Abuse As I said before, the guy was speeding and to get out of paying for a ticket, he claimed the pedal was stuck.
vlaz55 Sophomore Author London Posts:145 Points:484,675 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:12:14 AM Ignore vlaz55 Report Abuse seems awful misterious... maybe there is a virus in Toyotas software that runs the car??
Bill100 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,570 Points:200,025 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:11:04 AM Ignore Bill100 Report Abuse They cannot duplicate the problem. So what does that prove? Nothing. It certainly does not mean there is no problem. But even if no problem is ever found and fixed, the public market will solve their problem for them and not bother to buy a Toyota.
brus282 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,626 Points:943,225 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:11:02 AM Ignore brus282 Report Abuse this is the best news toyota could hope for, no one can find what caused it, therefore it does not exist, let the media help them spin it a little to help ease the pain
goalie1950 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,610 Points:323,475 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:10:58 AM Ignore goalie1950 Report Abuse This driver's story does sound a little suspicious but it does not discount the defects that exist with these Toyota built cars that have injured or killed people already.
jorobins538 Veteran Author Chicago Posts:484 Points:61,350 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:08:25 AM Ignore jorobins538 Report Abuse could have been "operator head space".
twaav8r Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:111 Points:276,745 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:05:41 AM Ignore twaav8r Report Abuse HAL 9000 lives! Airbus has similar problems, mostly Pilot interface problems. Pilots are trained and drilled in Emergency procedures. Toyota owners should practice the E.P. that was released by Toyota a few weeks back. It could save your life. I believe it was Brakes nuetral steer to a stop Look it up.
Pucked Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,091 Points:210,780 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:05:00 AM Ignore Pucked Report Abuse Since the CHP said he could hear the brakes when he was along side the car I believe something was wrong. We may never know the full story here but that does not change the other people who have died or been injured in a Toyota in the last three years due to this problem.
JuliusRex Veteran Author Orlando Posts:396 Points:123,525 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:02:33 AM Ignore JuliusRex Report Abuse This guy sped out of control for 20 minutes. I have a tough time believing he was properly trying to get the car under control. Even if the gas pedal did malfunction -- the brakes, emergency brake, transmission and ignition did not all malfunction at the same time. This person is either a stupendous idiot who shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel again, or he is a liar.
206awd250 Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,250 Points:427,880 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:02:04 AM Ignore 206awd250 Report Abuse not a good thing.
dopster Champion Author Toledo Posts:2,192 Points:1,355,285 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:00:45 AM Ignore dopster Report Abuse I find it difficult to believe that people (not just this example) would drive at 90+mph and run into something unmovable, risking death to themselves or a loved one, to stage a hoax.
sleepyt Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,391 Points:418,860 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:00:22 AM Ignore sleepyt Report Abuse According to the latest news report I heard on radio this morning, there was little to no wear on the brake pads on that Prius. If this guy was standing on his brakes at 94 mph, wouldn't you expect to see just a little wear, and some scoring??? If the report is true, it seems that at least this case was staged - for whatever reason. And as a systems developer, let me say that just because one cannot recreate an error in the lab, it doesn't mean that the error doesn't exist. It just means the error cannot yet be diagnosed, because a factor that causes the error hasn't been included in the test. But understand that if the error can be created under no conditions, there are no remedial steps that can be taken.
baitmn Champion Author New Orleans Posts:4,003 Points:1,128,050 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:00:20 AM Ignore baitmn Report Abuse call it what you want there are going to be more lawyer in this deal, than cars on the road
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:3,914 Points:1,434,900 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:57:21 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse No matter what, Toyota has a very tough road ahead
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:9,846 Points:1,685,610 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:56:32 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse If the NHTSA is not able to find a problem with the system by the time they finish their examination, it will support Toyota's claim that they can not find a problem with the electronics. If no one can duplicate the problem under real world operating conditions, then Toyota will not know what to fix.
ModelWarships Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,886 Points:455,090 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:56:11 AM Ignore ModelWarships Report Abuse Well they haven't been able to duplicate any of the problems on the other cars. So why point the finger at this guy.
Ticoman54 Champion Author Miami Posts:2,601 Points:584,245 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:55:22 AM Ignore Ticoman54 Report Abuse I agree with clermont40miles.
Maintroll Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,684 Points:724,235 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:51:31 AM Ignore Maintroll Report Abuse They must be pretty stupid if they can't tell that this moron staged this incident. I could disprove it real quick if they would allow me to test the car for them. A human being can override a computer if they think real quick.
Diesel_Ram Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,703 Points:553,900 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:50:48 AM Ignore Diesel_Ram Report Abuse I bet it was a hoax
Zinnoil Champion Author Florida Posts:18,901 Points:2,139,725 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:50:33 AM Ignore Zinnoil Report Abuse Some indicate that his brake lights were not seen.
esorsd Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,077 Points:690,000 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:49:28 AM Ignore esorsd Report Abuse Sometimes intermittent errors are the most difficult to repeat.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:14,850 Points:1,944,660 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:49:01 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse To paraphrase from politics: "It's the computer, stupid".
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,809 Points:1,549,340 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:47:16 AM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse It seems to me that the claimaint should have to show the malfunction, not the defendant!
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:9,719 Points:1,702,785 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:46:30 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse Electionic errors may be harder to repeat
TXGasPriceSpy Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,676 Points:502,570 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:45:28 AM Ignore TXGasPriceSpy Report Abuse Not the Toyota stuff again. Toyota has a problem, or problems, and they need to fix them correctly the first time they work on those cars.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:4,751 Points:804,945 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:44:55 AM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Keep looking. No explanation is not the answer.
TommyTraveler Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,681 Points:720,080 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:43:30 AM Ignore TommyTraveler Report Abuse The guy is a scammer.
eights Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,889 Points:512,105 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:42:52 AM Ignore eights Report Abuse that our problem everyone is trying to get something for notine
briguy101386 Rookie Author Oregon Posts:79 Points:27,060 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:42:24 AM Ignore briguy101386 Report Abuse Yes and a software glitch that randomly occurs is even harder to track down. The workers for Toyota have one thing going for them, their lives. If this happened in China their would be heads rolling all over the place.
CptnCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:2,753 Points:412,000 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:42:09 AM Ignore CptnCanada Report Abuse What software platform does the computer run on?
njerald Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,892 Points:666,480 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:41:55 AM Ignore njerald Report Abuse Thedriver was faking it , obviously..............
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,604 Points:1,035,765 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:41:40 AM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse If it happens once after somebody has been driving the car for months, how do they expect to repeat it over the weekend?
bills55 Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,163 Points:301,025 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:57 AM Ignore bills55 Report Abuse Can't find a problem, blame the driver.
9C1 Champion Author Chicago Posts:17,684 Points:3,277,720 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:50 AM Ignore 9C1 Report Abuse And what does the highway patrol officer who helped him stop have to say?
bell05 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:4,336 Points:903,255 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:38:56 AM Ignore bell05 Report Abuse No surprise here. Plus this is a repeat article.
BillHeatherL Champion Author Alberta Posts:2,767 Points:981,160 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:38:38 AM Ignore BillHeatherL Report Abuse hope they figure this out
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:5,543 Points:1,050,240 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:38:00 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse What is common between the Camery and the Prius? Some software is common. Hmmm. But software bugs can be Very hard to find. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
ByGuy Champion Author Dallas Posts:3,231 Points:786,735 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:36:59 AM Ignore ByGuy Report Abuse I smell a rat.
MightyDude Champion Author Minnesota Posts:5,336 Points:1,672,395 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:35:43 AM Ignore MightyDude Report Abuse I smell ambulance chasers ;)
briguy101386 Rookie Author Oregon Posts:79 Points:27,060 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:34:39 AM Ignore briguy101386 Report Abuse lol Windows ME! Yeah good things the vehicles haven't started randomly crashing yet.
repeater1 Champion Author Kansas Posts:3,447 Points:1,402,395 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:34:11 AM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse True or someone else looking for some fame?
CLM06 Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,689 Points:1,113,290 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:31:42 AM Ignore CLM06 Report Abuse Whether or not this is true Toyota will make sure they can't find anything wrong
aalix Champion Author Orange County Posts:18,189 Points:3,174,800 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:31:36 AM Ignore aalix Report Abuse They should test it in the area where the incident happened. Maybe there are radio signals, cell site signals or whatever that affects the electronic box of the Toyota vehicles.
yukonjack Champion Author Georgia Posts:4,389 Points:1,139,670 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:30:08 AM Ignore yukonjack Report Abuse ssect8 - I was thinking maybe Windows ME or something archaic like that.